Got to ride the 10M Screamer back to back with the 11M Renegade. The 11M Renegade looks smaller than the 10M Ltd upon first glance. When in the air, it has more bar pressure and turns slower than the Screamer. However, it has good power and nice jumps. Fun in the waves, however, I personally like the faster turning Screamer. Both kites are extremely stable, however, the Renegade seems to sit in the sky no matter how bothched a trick may be. Both relaunch very easily. The decision as to which to kite to buy will be personal preference, as they are very different feeling kites that will match any riders' style. The local shop, Emerald Coast Kiteboarding, found these kites to have excellent wind range and great performance. If you get a chance to try them, fly the Screamer and Renegade back to back in order to get a true feel for each one. You will not be disappointed!!