From: Mateusz Milosinki SU2 boards.
Dimitri,
Just wanted to let you know that I’ve demoed your kites. I am blown away by Screamer 14. I’m 245lbs and I was riding this weekend in 15-16mph wind on my 135x41 SU-2 Prorider (which as you probably know doesn’t plane that fast and requires a little bit more power). I was perfectly powered with my weight and this “small” board on the 14 (it was set to 3rd knot but I would’ve been fine on the second too).
I’m really going to miss the 14 until I get my own. I really really liked it. I really liked the bar pressure, even though it is heavier to what I’m used to, but I love how the kite handles and love the feedback on the bar. Another thing that I just love is how predictable this kite is, and it always is where you expect it to be. You guys did a great job designing this kite.
I also tried 11 Renegade that Dale sent me, but I tried it in really gnarly conditions, that were really not suitable for testing. Wind was up and down from 10 (and sometimes less) to 35-38mph. All I can say it is super stable and handles great. Also very predictable and very comfortable:)
I’m going to go ahead and order the 14 as soon as I free up some cash which should be either this week or next week. Do you take Amex or other CC? (or maybe Paypal?)
Thanks again for hooking me up with demo kites from Dale. Right now guys in LA are trying them so hope you’ll guys will have more orders coming in:)
Talk to you soon.
M.
Thursday, April 29, 2010
From: Linda
HI,Dimitri. You need to make a Screamer in a 5M!!! I have been enjoying my 7M for the past two months, it is amazing!! But, there have been a couple of days that I could have used a 5M!!!! I love my kites, and I hope to post more pictures and comments after this weekend, as we have more more big wind and waves coming starting tomorrow!!! Thanks again for the amazing kites!!!
Only one problem, after about 7-8 sessions, the grip on my bar started separating and peeling away. I will send you a picture. It's weird, like where the seam comes together when its heat wrapped around the bar, that's where it started pulling apart.
Anyway, the 7M has been absolutely AMAZING!!!! Linda
HI,Dimitri. You need to make a Screamer in a 5M!!! I have been enjoying my 7M for the past two months, it is amazing!! But, there have been a couple of days that I could have used a 5M!!!! I love my kites, and I hope to post more pictures and comments after this weekend, as we have more more big wind and waves coming starting tomorrow!!! Thanks again for the amazing kites!!!
Only one problem, after about 7-8 sessions, the grip on my bar started separating and peeling away. I will send you a picture. It's weird, like where the seam comes together when its heat wrapped around the bar, that's where it started pulling apart.
Anyway, the 7M has been absolutely AMAZING!!!! Linda
Wednesday, April 28, 2010
Monday, April 26, 2010
We had a small demo day here last week had about 5 riders show up, everyone was impressed with the kites, we flew the 10 and 14. Going to put together another demo and try to get a few more people to show up. I have some photos and video. Let Dimitri know that I will try to post some of that by the end of the week. The 10 really blew a few peoples mind. It was fairly light wind and we had some lighter riders boosting on the 10. Were supprised with the power.Hope all has been good. My wife, daughter and I will be in Hatteras along with a couple of friends first part of June and would like meet up with you,Dimitri and your family to get some riding in and would also like to invite you guys to dinner. I will let you know the dates and hope you all are available.Take care. I will look for that invoice.Thanks,Steve
Sunday, April 25, 2010
From SO Cal
Just wanted to share my thoughts as this week I had a chance to ride RENEGADE 11 and SCREAMER 14.
I'm 245-250lbs so definitely on the heavier side of the equation, live in LA area (mainly ride Malibu or Belmont), and usually ride twin tips (135x41 and 150x40 Mako)
This week we had a strong storm going thru for couple of days and I decided to give the 11 a shot. I'm so glad that I had the Renegade with me this Wed as the conditions were gnarly. Wind was gusting to 35-38mph and would drop to 10-15 (and sometimes it would shut off completely) and then come up to 30+ again.The kite was SUUPER stable, and very predictable. It has very nice depower so gusts didn't bother me at all. It wasn't the best day to demo anything as I was more concerned about surviving then kiting, but I was really happy with how the kite performed.
Yesterday I rode the SCREAMER 14, which I was pretty skeptical about as I didn't think that this size would be enough for my weight. I really wanted to try the kite in Malibu which usually has stronger winds than Long Beach and OC area, to get a better feel for the kite, but ended up going to Belmont which has pretty steady 15-20mph winds on a good day. I normally ride my 17 Waroo there, even when the winds occasionally go up to 20-25.
The wind today was averaging around 15-16mph (12 to 18) so I figured that I'll pump my 17 just in case, if it wasn't enough for the Screamer and a twin tip. Before I went out on a Screamer I tried another 2010 kite in 15M. It was a really nice kite with plenty of power but I did have to ride the 150 Mako as it wasn't enough for the 135 TT. Rode that one for a bit and came back to change to Screamer. Once I switched and launched I couldn't believe how much power it had! It felt more powerful than my 17.
Screamer 14 is fast, powerful, cuts upwind really well, jumps great and I love that it always is exactly in the window where you expect it to be. Feedback on the bar is great and even though the bar pressure is a little heavier (I would say it's def. less than Bandits), but it really handles great.
I'm in a market for new kites, and had a chance to try number of 2010 kites in last few months and I must say that EPIC kites were the only once that I didn't have to get used to to ride them. They felt perfect, right from the first tack like I'd always been riding Epic.
Dimitri and Dale, thanks for hooking me up with demo kites, I think I'm ready for some EPIC times with EPIC kites:)
I'm 245-250lbs so definitely on the heavier side of the equation, live in LA area (mainly ride Malibu or Belmont), and usually ride twin tips (135x41 and 150x40 Mako)
This week we had a strong storm going thru for couple of days and I decided to give the 11 a shot. I'm so glad that I had the Renegade with me this Wed as the conditions were gnarly. Wind was gusting to 35-38mph and would drop to 10-15 (and sometimes it would shut off completely) and then come up to 30+ again.The kite was SUUPER stable, and very predictable. It has very nice depower so gusts didn't bother me at all. It wasn't the best day to demo anything as I was more concerned about surviving then kiting, but I was really happy with how the kite performed.
Yesterday I rode the SCREAMER 14, which I was pretty skeptical about as I didn't think that this size would be enough for my weight. I really wanted to try the kite in Malibu which usually has stronger winds than Long Beach and OC area, to get a better feel for the kite, but ended up going to Belmont which has pretty steady 15-20mph winds on a good day. I normally ride my 17 Waroo there, even when the winds occasionally go up to 20-25.
The wind today was averaging around 15-16mph (12 to 18) so I figured that I'll pump my 17 just in case, if it wasn't enough for the Screamer and a twin tip. Before I went out on a Screamer I tried another 2010 kite in 15M. It was a really nice kite with plenty of power but I did have to ride the 150 Mako as it wasn't enough for the 135 TT. Rode that one for a bit and came back to change to Screamer. Once I switched and launched I couldn't believe how much power it had! It felt more powerful than my 17.
Screamer 14 is fast, powerful, cuts upwind really well, jumps great and I love that it always is exactly in the window where you expect it to be. Feedback on the bar is great and even though the bar pressure is a little heavier (I would say it's def. less than Bandits), but it really handles great.
I'm in a market for new kites, and had a chance to try number of 2010 kites in last few months and I must say that EPIC kites were the only once that I didn't have to get used to to ride them. They felt perfect, right from the first tack like I'd always been riding Epic.
Dimitri and Dale, thanks for hooking me up with demo kites, I think I'm ready for some EPIC times with EPIC kites:)
Wednesday, April 21, 2010
Mark Shinn Review Renegade 6
“Hello Gentlemen,
Thanks to both your efforts I have now had a couple of solid sessions on the Epic Renegade 6m and have formed an opinion.
Thought you might like to have it......... (for what it is worth!)
The kite is very stable in all conditions. I had no stalling even in terrible gusty off shore winds. In extreme gusts the canopy maintains it's profile nicely....... no wing tip stall, no central collapsing ...... all good.
The power is impressive for a 6m kite. Pull is direct and instant. Turning is good (but then what 6m isn't!) I think I flew faster kites but it is more than fast enough and for wave riding is perfect speed.
I flew the kite on 16m, 20m and 25m lines and it handled perfectly on all of them. Unhooked it is working nicely but I would not say this is the forte of the kite. It is a little easy to stall when Unhooked and too much back line tension and it flies backwards pretty easily. But I did not get an EPIC bar so I was using another bar and maybe that was the reason.
Re launch I have absolutely no idea....... sorry!
Jumping performance is impressive also. The lift is very aggressive and the descent controlled.......
The only area where I was not absolutely stoked is in the depower. Of course the kite depowers well but not as much as some other that I've flown. But again I was not using the EPIC bar since Dimitri forgot to send it to me.
So, in conclusion.... great kite and I am loving using it...... in my very humble opinion it could have more depower and a shorter de power travel but apart from that....... very very very nice indeed.
Well done all!
Mark Shinn”
Thanks to both your efforts I have now had a couple of solid sessions on the Epic Renegade 6m and have formed an opinion.
Thought you might like to have it......... (for what it is worth!)
The kite is very stable in all conditions. I had no stalling even in terrible gusty off shore winds. In extreme gusts the canopy maintains it's profile nicely....... no wing tip stall, no central collapsing ...... all good.
The power is impressive for a 6m kite. Pull is direct and instant. Turning is good (but then what 6m isn't!) I think I flew faster kites but it is more than fast enough and for wave riding is perfect speed.
I flew the kite on 16m, 20m and 25m lines and it handled perfectly on all of them. Unhooked it is working nicely but I would not say this is the forte of the kite. It is a little easy to stall when Unhooked and too much back line tension and it flies backwards pretty easily. But I did not get an EPIC bar so I was using another bar and maybe that was the reason.
Re launch I have absolutely no idea....... sorry!
Jumping performance is impressive also. The lift is very aggressive and the descent controlled.......
The only area where I was not absolutely stoked is in the depower. Of course the kite depowers well but not as much as some other that I've flown. But again I was not using the EPIC bar since Dimitri forgot to send it to me.
So, in conclusion.... great kite and I am loving using it...... in my very humble opinion it could have more depower and a shorter de power travel but apart from that....... very very very nice indeed.
Well done all!
Mark Shinn”
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Review of the SCREAMER kite
From: Grant
Location: CA. USA
I actually got to spend a little bit of time on the screamer. But not enough to really do a full review on it yet. Hopefully tomorrow or this weekend there will be wind and I will have a video/review up by the end of next week. The Screamer is NUTS! Another rider and I demoed the Screamer and walked up to each other with huge smiles. We were absolutely blown away and couldn’t stop smiling. I definitely want to upgrade my quiver to Screamers.
From: Grant
Location: CA. USA
I actually got to spend a little bit of time on the screamer. But not enough to really do a full review on it yet. Hopefully tomorrow or this weekend there will be wind and I will have a video/review up by the end of next week. The Screamer is NUTS! Another rider and I demoed the Screamer and walked up to each other with huge smiles. We were absolutely blown away and couldn’t stop smiling. I definitely want to upgrade my quiver to Screamers.
From:
David W. Peterson, President
True Blue Water Sports, Inc.
Dimitri,
Had the opportunity to test the Renegade 9 yesterday in 20-25 mph gusty conditions at Pompano Beach. Had some nice waves to work as well. Even though I have only been kiting for 3 months the kite stayed right where I expected it to be. Never dropped the kite in the water once. Put myself in the pocket with ease and even made some turns without dropping the kite. Also found that the kite has some great boost. Like the bar with the grip notches. Like the extra lockdowns in the inflation and deflation valve, and the kite is particularly attractive in the air.
David W. Peterson, President
True Blue Water Sports, Inc.
Dimitri,
Had the opportunity to test the Renegade 9 yesterday in 20-25 mph gusty conditions at Pompano Beach. Had some nice waves to work as well. Even though I have only been kiting for 3 months the kite stayed right where I expected it to be. Never dropped the kite in the water once. Put myself in the pocket with ease and even made some turns without dropping the kite. Also found that the kite has some great boost. Like the bar with the grip notches. Like the extra lockdowns in the inflation and deflation valve, and the kite is particularly attractive in the air.
Tuesday, April 13, 2010
The Epic Renegade!
The Epic Renegade!
Poster name: grantman54
Post subject: Re: New Brand: Epic Kites
Joined: 21 Jul 2007 04:54
Posts: 470
Location: Central CA
Kiter Background:
I have been demoing a ton of kites recently and checked out the different companies at the recent Pismo Expo. I have flown, Liquid Force Sessions, Liquid Force Havocs (2010), Liquid Force Envy, Best Kahoona 2010, Best Nemesis NXG, Best Waroo, Caution Zombie 2010, GK Sonic 2010, Nobile 555 2010, Liquid Force Menace, Naish Cult, Epic Screamer, and the Epic Renegade. Through testing all of these I have found what I definitely don't like and the characteristics that make a great kite. I have been eager to test the Epic kites after hearing all the talk and checking out their quality at the expo
Features:
I was the first to try out the brand new 9m Epic Renegade that xtremebigair got for demos. (Thanks Kinsley!)
• Kite: Well I thoroughly examined Epic's quality at the recent expo (http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2363440&hilit=pismo ), and they are top notch. There are only a few companies out there putting forth the effort to produce durable products and Epic is one of them.
• Bag: Interesting bag that seems to work well. Its not your typical stuff in the kite bag. Its more like a clean suitcase for your kite. I really liked it at a glance. However, I would love to see some nice Epic graphics covering it. Im young and that kind of thing stands out to me.
• Bar: Well if you like above the bar depower and a clean system, this is a perfect bar for you. It doesn't get better than this. The below the bar swivel works well. It isn't a necessity but nice to have and very few companies have some sort of swivel. Most swivels don't work, but Epic's below the bar swivel is always there working when you want to use it. The bar's construction is refined and appears very durable. I liked all the bar's features: the beefy pretty floats, the bar foam, the durable O'shit handles, the bar ends, the simple QR, the ease of use on the depower system, and the "adjustable" bar width for your smaller kites. My only complaint would be the red plastic piece of the SDR QR. It is plasticy. I would like to see it in the future, made out of a different more refined plastic softer to the touch. The stopper! I liked this thing. Too many stoppers I have been using arent that easy to use and dont seem to work that great. The Epic stopper is my favorite by far.
Flight Specs:
My weight: 175lbs
Board: 133 Liquid Force Recoil
Beach Conditions: Typical California coast with onshore winds and waves.
The Bar in Flight:
Well this bar looks great and dandy on the beach, but what about when you take in in the water? This bar rocks! The depower and swivel are easy to use on the go. The bar pressure was in the medium range. The input was direct and immediate. The amount of throw on the bar is just the right amount and fluid. You can pretty much ride sheeted out or in. Just sheet in when you want some boost or speed. My arm position was natural and right where it should be. The Center lines were nice and thin and the bar slid over them really easily. Everything about this bar makes sense and is easy use. The kite was always where you wanted it to be and always went where you wanted it to go. The bar input was great overall with no complaints.
Kite Performance:
Wind Conditions: 18-22mph
This kite doesn't need apparent wind to get you riding. It planes really easily and gets you going pronto. It pivots in the air smoothly and gets through the wind window cleanly. You can drop it low. Bring it to 12. Do whatever you want with it and it is predictable and stable. For only having 3 struts it has extremely little canopy flutter and stays completely rigid in the air. No jellyfishing through gusts or anything like that. It is consistently powerful. I caught some tiny waves with it and I liked that I could just drop it down, sheet out, and ride the wave. But I could also play with the kite while I rode on the wave. In other words, the kite still functions with some slack in the lines. Big plus! The Renegade never hindenburged or back stalled at all. The few times I expected it to after a hard crash I looked up and it was chillin at 12! I was kinda blown away by this. My kites would have been falling out of the air after giving them that much slack. The hangtime on the kite was pretty good too. It wasn't extreme but that is not what this kite is for (Check out the Screamer for hang time). It had very fluid and smooth jumps.
Who is this kite for?
This kite is for a variety of people:
[list=]• The discerning rider looking for a quality company.
• The beginner looking for a kite that will help them progress and will continue to impress them as they become an intermediate rider.
• The general kiter. This is the kite that fills the gap between SLE and the Delta kites. It has the advantages of both with no sacrifices.
• The waverider wanting a kite that will never fall out of the sky and doesn't mind chillin out while the pilot shreds on a wave.
• The progessive rider looking for a kite that gets them planing early and is consistent throughout the window so they can work on their handlepasses and kite loops.
• The everyday rider. This kite would be great for the kiter using one kite daily because of its good range. I didn't even come close to hitting the top or bottom end.
[/list]
At a Glance Report Card
Inflation system: Excellent and quality built
Control Bar: All around best simple system out there.
Control Bar Materials: This bar will last a long long time.
Safety System: Push up standard release with center flag line. Perfect!
Bridle: Small and clean. Well built with beefy bridle pads.
Stability: The most stable kite I have flown!
Power: Excellent and consistent through the wind window.
Turning: Good pivoty motion. Predictable.
Pop: It has it just like any other kite. Not over the top but a consistent good pull.
Bar Pressure: Medium bar pressure, a bit on the heavy side. Good rider feedback.
Depower: Love it. Good system, easy to use, right amount of bar throw.
Relaunch: Never crashed it even though I myself crashed a dozen times.
Durability: Build quality is top notch.
Kite Bag: Fun bag with unique shape! (needs more pretty graphics like the kites )
Epic came out strong! Most kites need refinement after the first production but this kite is better than the generation 2/3 kites I have flown from other companies. Epic did it right and released a competitive quality product from the get go.
Poster name: grantman54
Post subject: Re: New Brand: Epic Kites
Joined: 21 Jul 2007 04:54
Posts: 470
Location: Central CA
Kiter Background:
I have been demoing a ton of kites recently and checked out the different companies at the recent Pismo Expo. I have flown, Liquid Force Sessions, Liquid Force Havocs (2010), Liquid Force Envy, Best Kahoona 2010, Best Nemesis NXG, Best Waroo, Caution Zombie 2010, GK Sonic 2010, Nobile 555 2010, Liquid Force Menace, Naish Cult, Epic Screamer, and the Epic Renegade. Through testing all of these I have found what I definitely don't like and the characteristics that make a great kite. I have been eager to test the Epic kites after hearing all the talk and checking out their quality at the expo
Features:
I was the first to try out the brand new 9m Epic Renegade that xtremebigair got for demos. (Thanks Kinsley!)
• Kite: Well I thoroughly examined Epic's quality at the recent expo (http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2363440&hilit=pismo
• Bag: Interesting bag that seems to work well. Its not your typical stuff in the kite bag. Its more like a clean suitcase for your kite. I really liked it at a glance. However, I would love to see some nice Epic graphics covering it. Im young and that kind of thing stands out to me.
• Bar: Well if you like above the bar depower and a clean system, this is a perfect bar for you. It doesn't get better than this. The below the bar swivel works well. It isn't a necessity but nice to have and very few companies have some sort of swivel. Most swivels don't work, but Epic's below the bar swivel is always there working when you want to use it. The bar's construction is refined and appears very durable. I liked all the bar's features: the beefy pretty floats, the bar foam, the durable O'shit handles, the bar ends, the simple QR, the ease of use on the depower system, and the "adjustable" bar width for your smaller kites. My only complaint would be the red plastic piece of the SDR QR. It is plasticy. I would like to see it in the future, made out of a different more refined plastic softer to the touch. The stopper! I liked this thing. Too many stoppers I have been using arent that easy to use and dont seem to work that great. The Epic stopper is my favorite by far.
Flight Specs:
My weight: 175lbs
Board: 133 Liquid Force Recoil
Beach Conditions: Typical California coast with onshore winds and waves.
The Bar in Flight:
Well this bar looks great and dandy on the beach, but what about when you take in in the water? This bar rocks! The depower and swivel are easy to use on the go. The bar pressure was in the medium range. The input was direct and immediate. The amount of throw on the bar is just the right amount and fluid. You can pretty much ride sheeted out or in. Just sheet in when you want some boost or speed. My arm position was natural and right where it should be. The Center lines were nice and thin and the bar slid over them really easily. Everything about this bar makes sense and is easy use. The kite was always where you wanted it to be and always went where you wanted it to go. The bar input was great overall with no complaints.
Kite Performance:
Wind Conditions: 18-22mph
This kite doesn't need apparent wind to get you riding. It planes really easily and gets you going pronto. It pivots in the air smoothly and gets through the wind window cleanly. You can drop it low. Bring it to 12. Do whatever you want with it and it is predictable and stable. For only having 3 struts it has extremely little canopy flutter and stays completely rigid in the air. No jellyfishing through gusts or anything like that. It is consistently powerful. I caught some tiny waves with it and I liked that I could just drop it down, sheet out, and ride the wave. But I could also play with the kite while I rode on the wave. In other words, the kite still functions with some slack in the lines. Big plus! The Renegade never hindenburged or back stalled at all. The few times I expected it to after a hard crash I looked up and it was chillin at 12! I was kinda blown away by this. My kites would have been falling out of the air after giving them that much slack. The hangtime on the kite was pretty good too. It wasn't extreme but that is not what this kite is for (Check out the Screamer for hang time). It had very fluid and smooth jumps.
Who is this kite for?
This kite is for a variety of people:
[list=]• The discerning rider looking for a quality company.
• The beginner looking for a kite that will help them progress and will continue to impress them as they become an intermediate rider.
• The general kiter. This is the kite that fills the gap between SLE and the Delta kites. It has the advantages of both with no sacrifices.
• The waverider wanting a kite that will never fall out of the sky and doesn't mind chillin out while the pilot shreds on a wave.
• The progessive rider looking for a kite that gets them planing early and is consistent throughout the window so they can work on their handlepasses and kite loops.
• The everyday rider. This kite would be great for the kiter using one kite daily because of its good range. I didn't even come close to hitting the top or bottom end.
[/list]
At a Glance Report Card
Inflation system: Excellent and quality built
Control Bar: All around best simple system out there.
Control Bar Materials: This bar will last a long long time.
Safety System: Push up standard release with center flag line. Perfect!
Bridle: Small and clean. Well built with beefy bridle pads.
Stability: The most stable kite I have flown!
Power: Excellent and consistent through the wind window.
Turning: Good pivoty motion. Predictable.
Pop: It has it just like any other kite. Not over the top but a consistent good pull.
Bar Pressure: Medium bar pressure, a bit on the heavy side. Good rider feedback.
Depower: Love it. Good system, easy to use, right amount of bar throw.
Relaunch: Never crashed it even though I myself crashed a dozen times.
Durability: Build quality is top notch.
Kite Bag: Fun bag with unique shape! (needs more pretty graphics like the kites )
Epic came out strong! Most kites need refinement after the first production but this kite is better than the generation 2/3 kites I have flown from other companies. Epic did it right and released a competitive quality product from the get go.
Monday, April 12, 2010
Paul's email
Hi,
My name is Paul. I've been kiting for a few good years all-year round on water, land and snow. You and Cameron have been my inspiration to try and teach my brother's kids (9 years old boy and 11 years old girl). Last year in Cape Cod I had them hop on my kiteboard and started pulling them around just like I saw you do it in one of your videos with Cameron. I was blown away that after the second try they were up and riding. After a few more tries they were edging properly. I was totally spent that day and the next from pulling them around.
I am ready to buy them a harness and was curious what harness does Cameron have. He looks about the same height and weight as my brother's kids. The waist size is something in between 22 and 25 inches.
I see you are having some awesome conditions in the Outer Banks. I am still landboarding as the water is too cold around Cape Cod. Good Luck with the Epic brand and I appreciate any help with the harness.
Thanks,
--Paul
My name is Paul. I've been kiting for a few good years all-year round on water, land and snow. You and Cameron have been my inspiration to try and teach my brother's kids (9 years old boy and 11 years old girl). Last year in Cape Cod I had them hop on my kiteboard and started pulling them around just like I saw you do it in one of your videos with Cameron. I was blown away that after the second try they were up and riding. After a few more tries they were edging properly. I was totally spent that day and the next from pulling them around.
I am ready to buy them a harness and was curious what harness does Cameron have. He looks about the same height and weight as my brother's kids. The waist size is something in between 22 and 25 inches.
I see you are having some awesome conditions in the Outer Banks. I am still landboarding as the water is too cold around Cape Cod. Good Luck with the Epic brand and I appreciate any help with the harness.
Thanks,
--Paul
Renegade 6 in high winds
DISCLAIMER: I work for Epic.
Me: 170 pound weekend warrior father of two intermediate; kiting for about 6 years now.
I got to ride my 6M Renegade again on Saturday. I rode from 1PM to about 3:30 on 20M lines. From the chart below, this is range is about 20 to 37 or so. Not exactly ideal conditions but, the kite handled really well. I had pulled about 6 to 8 inched of depower as I am a real sissy and don’t like to be over powered. Even at that range, I had to sheet out fully on some of the bigger gusts. When I have done this on kites in the past, jumping usually suffer significantly. I was amazed to see that the Renegade still had great floaty jumps even in this depowered riding mode. The kite handled just the same way with depower as well as without. It has a very smooth feel and I always knew where the kite was and it never over-flew me or got out of control.
I can’t emphasize enough on the hangtime that these kites have. You just float. It’s a really cool almost gliding like feeling. Not to mention that this three strut kite is super easy to pump up and then put away. I get two kites in one bag now.
What didn’t I like? Nothing, this kite does everything for me. In this high wind range, we get some significant swells on the river. I could sheet out, ride downwind on these swells and the Renegade would just hang there waiting for input again. I should be getting out to the coast soon and I will let you know how it goes with the waves.
Me: 170 pound weekend warrior father of two intermediate; kiting for about 6 years now.
I got to ride my 6M Renegade again on Saturday. I rode from 1PM to about 3:30 on 20M lines. From the chart below, this is range is about 20 to 37 or so. Not exactly ideal conditions but, the kite handled really well. I had pulled about 6 to 8 inched of depower as I am a real sissy and don’t like to be over powered. Even at that range, I had to sheet out fully on some of the bigger gusts. When I have done this on kites in the past, jumping usually suffer significantly. I was amazed to see that the Renegade still had great floaty jumps even in this depowered riding mode. The kite handled just the same way with depower as well as without. It has a very smooth feel and I always knew where the kite was and it never over-flew me or got out of control.
I can’t emphasize enough on the hangtime that these kites have. You just float. It’s a really cool almost gliding like feeling. Not to mention that this three strut kite is super easy to pump up and then put away. I get two kites in one bag now.
What didn’t I like? Nothing, this kite does everything for me. In this high wind range, we get some significant swells on the river. I could sheet out, ride downwind on these swells and the Renegade would just hang there waiting for input again. I should be getting out to the coast soon and I will let you know how it goes with the waves.
Thursday, April 8, 2010
Taken from the www.kiteforum.com
Post subject: Re: New Brand: Epic Kites
Medium Poster
Joined: 18 May 2008 16:34
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So I finally placed an order for some Renegades after reading all these posts, watching the testimonials, and recommendation from a friend. I originally ordered some Eclipse kites, but after over 3 months of waiting, just decided to get my money back. I placed the order Monday night after Dimitri finished his demo's. I wanted a black one and a green one as my first choice, however they only had orange and green in stock for those sizes. But, he said he would make some calls to get my first choices. I know this guy was up until 1:30 am filling 17 orders that night. Well, the order went out the next morning and the kites will be here Friday(with my first color choice). More to come on the performance of the kites, however, customer service is second to none.
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Joined: 18 May 2008 16:34
Posts: 155 iblocalsurfer
So I finally placed an order for some Renegades after reading all these posts, watching the testimonials, and recommendation from a friend. I originally ordered some Eclipse kites, but after over 3 months of waiting, just decided to get my money back. I placed the order Monday night after Dimitri finished his demo's. I wanted a black one and a green one as my first choice, however they only had orange and green in stock for those sizes. But, he said he would make some calls to get my first choices. I know this guy was up until 1:30 am filling 17 orders that night. Well, the order went out the next morning and the kites will be here Friday(with my first color choice). More to come on the performance of the kites, however, customer service is second to none.
Sunday, April 4, 2010
From: ARTHUR SISHAYE
Ma session en RENEGADE 9 ! Malheureusement je suis arrivé trop tard le vent est tombé il restais quoi allé un petit 12 noeuds et c'est la que la 9 m'a surprise bon il y'a 50kg en dessous ! Un très bon fond de puissance et super super super stable en nav' je n'ais pas déhook' (il faut que je règle les avant ..) mais je pense que en déhook' sa va vraiment etre un + cette stabilité se que je veux c'est que l'aile va très bien pardonner les erreurs en barre .. Par contre dans les saut je n'ais pas encore trouvé le petit truc qui fait que je suis monté et pourtant je senté que j'avais de la puissance pour envoyer .. Sa va venir ! sinon j'ais backé un peu l'aile pour tester le redécolage et bien qu'il y avait 12 noeuds sa redécollait tout seule vraiment un plus pour le déhook' (je fais souvent tomber l'aile) .. Le petit bordé choqué est vraiment un confort ! Sinon en kiteloop sa tourne tout seule ! même dans 12 noeuds les loop passaient tout seule (une fois l'aile engagé le loop est rapide et donc ne t'arrache pas comme une me*** .. voila j'attend des vrai bonne session pour en dire plus mais c'est se que j'en ais pensé (pour la 6 a mon avis si elle suit sa grande soeur --> machine à kiteloop très table et pour une petite bache sa va être niquel en déhooké pour le vent fort )
Petit retour sur la RENEGADE 6 .
Cette 6 est super maniable , légère en barre (mais pas trop (moin qu'une Furia ..)) On a toujours un fond de puissance et elle reste supere stable (perso top pour le déhook en apprantissage et top niveau ) elle redécolle super bien ce qui est pratique quand on back souvent l'aile .. ! Dans les jumps , sa va monter haut ! tout comme la 9m d'ailleurs ! On la prend vite en main moi il m'a juste fallut un peu de temps pour monter dans les tricks .. Après ça c'est perso .
Un point que j'adore le bordé choqué (il est vraiment court se qui peut faire un peu peur pour ceux qui sont habitués à avoir une aile total dépower type naish cult ou autre) Mais beaucoup plus agréable , et sur cette courte distance on arrive déjà a bien annulé la puissance De plus je navigue dans un coin ou de temps en temps on peut avoir des sessions rafaleuses et bien la j'ais était très surpris on ne les rescend pas , j'ais meme pris un grain ( qui je vous avous n'étais pas 15 noeuds - 30 noeuds ) mais sa a bien pris et j'étais bien . Pour le vent fort je pense que sa va être le top..
Après niveau défauts perso j'en ais pas vus comme ça , le matos est vraiment simpa puis une déco vraiment cool (personnellement) Après je vous invites a venir tester tout ca , et faire un comte rendu sur ce que vous avez aimé et moin aimé sur l'aile Je serais dispo a la baule le week prochain avec Nico , puis dès le Lundi après la Baule dispo à Larochelle toute la semaine (surtout chatelaillon) . voila les riders.
Ma session en RENEGADE 9 ! Malheureusement je suis arrivé trop tard le vent est tombé il restais quoi allé un petit 12 noeuds et c'est la que la 9 m'a surprise bon il y'a 50kg en dessous ! Un très bon fond de puissance et super super super stable en nav' je n'ais pas déhook' (il faut que je règle les avant ..) mais je pense que en déhook' sa va vraiment etre un + cette stabilité se que je veux c'est que l'aile va très bien pardonner les erreurs en barre .. Par contre dans les saut je n'ais pas encore trouvé le petit truc qui fait que je suis monté et pourtant je senté que j'avais de la puissance pour envoyer .. Sa va venir ! sinon j'ais backé un peu l'aile pour tester le redécolage et bien qu'il y avait 12 noeuds sa redécollait tout seule vraiment un plus pour le déhook' (je fais souvent tomber l'aile) .. Le petit bordé choqué est vraiment un confort ! Sinon en kiteloop sa tourne tout seule ! même dans 12 noeuds les loop passaient tout seule (une fois l'aile engagé le loop est rapide et donc ne t'arrache pas comme une me*** .. voila j'attend des vrai bonne session pour en dire plus mais c'est se que j'en ais pensé (pour la 6 a mon avis si elle suit sa grande soeur --> machine à kiteloop très table et pour une petite bache sa va être niquel en déhooké pour le vent fort )
Petit retour sur la RENEGADE 6 .
Cette 6 est super maniable , légère en barre (mais pas trop (moin qu'une Furia ..)) On a toujours un fond de puissance et elle reste supere stable (perso top pour le déhook en apprantissage et top niveau ) elle redécolle super bien ce qui est pratique quand on back souvent l'aile .. ! Dans les jumps , sa va monter haut ! tout comme la 9m d'ailleurs ! On la prend vite en main moi il m'a juste fallut un peu de temps pour monter dans les tricks .. Après ça c'est perso .
Un point que j'adore le bordé choqué (il est vraiment court se qui peut faire un peu peur pour ceux qui sont habitués à avoir une aile total dépower type naish cult ou autre) Mais beaucoup plus agréable , et sur cette courte distance on arrive déjà a bien annulé la puissance De plus je navigue dans un coin ou de temps en temps on peut avoir des sessions rafaleuses et bien la j'ais était très surpris on ne les rescend pas , j'ais meme pris un grain ( qui je vous avous n'étais pas 15 noeuds - 30 noeuds ) mais sa a bien pris et j'étais bien . Pour le vent fort je pense que sa va être le top..
Après niveau défauts perso j'en ais pas vus comme ça , le matos est vraiment simpa puis une déco vraiment cool (personnellement) Après je vous invites a venir tester tout ca , et faire un comte rendu sur ce que vous avez aimé et moin aimé sur l'aile Je serais dispo a la baule le week prochain avec Nico , puis dès le Lundi après la Baule dispo à Larochelle toute la semaine (surtout chatelaillon) . voila les riders.
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